Elipzo
Person with 100-250 posts
It's like pain except I LOVE it!
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Post by Elipzo on Mar 9, 2010 16:08:45 GMT -7
Incorrect. An all-around character would actually be a great thing. MArio is rated low for his horrible mobility, inadequate power, horrible spiking ability, bad recovery, and again, priority. Im not saying he is bad, Any character can be great with good skill. But tiers DO exist, sadly.
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Post by O-X on Mar 9, 2010 16:17:39 GMT -7
some of us dont care about tiers. its depends on how u use the character.
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Post by wiidude30 on Mar 9, 2010 17:53:30 GMT -7
exactly. i use mario all the time, and he does pretty much what i tell him to. *goes hunting*
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Post by cody on Mar 9, 2010 18:58:25 GMT -7
some of us dont care about tiers. its depends on how u use the character. Yeah. We all have different play styles and strategies so not everyone is going to be real good with all of the characters. For example, a lot of people are pretty good with Ike, but I can't really do well with him. I do better with Lucas or Wario. It really all just comes down to how you play and who your comfortable playing as.
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Elipzo
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Post by Elipzo on Mar 10, 2010 13:18:01 GMT -7
Exactly. o:
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Post by wiidude30 on Mar 11, 2010 18:11:32 GMT -7
i feel like hating something/someone, but i dont know what/who...
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Elipzo
Person with 100-250 posts
It's like pain except I LOVE it!
Posts: 233
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Post by Elipzo on May 18, 2010 16:39:44 GMT -7
I am not saying that if you use this character youll be better. Tiers exist, but Skill exists too. And I really dont care about tiers at all. Because usually, lower tier characters are more fun to use.
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Post by Skarr on May 18, 2010 18:06:30 GMT -7
some of us dont care about tiers. its depends on how u use the character. Exactly. Nobody but me likes jiggles. I USED to be good with him. I will be again.
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Post by Skarr on May 18, 2010 18:07:21 GMT -7
some of us dont care about tiers. its depends on how u use the character. a lot of people are pretty good with Ike, but I can't really do well with him. I do better with Lucas or Wario. But Ike IS your second favorite character ;D
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Post by wiidude30 on May 18, 2010 20:11:06 GMT -7
i like jiggly, but it's too hard to use. it's too light and floaty.. oh well. its like lucario, where he's too slow on pulling out moves. plus, im not a fan of his dair
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Elipzo
Person with 100-250 posts
It's like pain except I LOVE it!
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Post by Elipzo on May 18, 2010 20:25:39 GMT -7
Lucario requires timing and accuracy. As a musician, I have my timing intact. And I love all of Lucario's moves, because they all have some combo potential.
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Post by gman544 on May 18, 2010 21:32:32 GMT -7
Why is Lucas so low? Lucas is an awesome character.
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Elipzo
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Post by Elipzo on May 18, 2010 22:02:15 GMT -7
Lucas's Recovery, mainly. That's usually the reason for Ness and Lucas being so low. When using attempting to use PK Thunder 2 (Pk Thunder 2 as in the Recovery move instead of using the actual ball of thunder to attack) he leaves himself open for an easy hit. And against characters with devestating aerials like Falcon's Knee or Spikes, that is not a risk you want to take. Then of course, the factor of movement. Lucas's Thunder cant run into a wall, or it will diminish, causing him to fall to his death. Not to mention that if it is attacked or reflected, he falls as well. In a tight space, Lucas has no chance of recovery because of the space it takes fro the PK Thunder 2 to work.
Another Factor is the rest of his specials. They all leave him open. PK Freeze leaves him vulnerable as he cannot move. PK Thunder 1 does as well. PK Fire not as much, but someone could easily jump the flames and strike. Absorb leaves him open from behind, and the closing hitbox on the absorber usually isnt enough to stop an incoming attack.
The last factor I will talk about is his matchups. Lucas does not fare well against many other characters in priority or speed. Besides, Lucas is easily edgeguarded and tossed around. He is also floaty and light, so he is easily killed by attacks like Fox's Up-Smash.
But none of this stops the fact that Lucas is a great character, and a fun one at that. :3
...Too much? xD
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Post by wiidude30 on May 20, 2010 15:39:47 GMT -7
You sound like the people who made the tier lists. and no, that isnt too much. ive made much bigger posts. id say lucas is ok, but he's horrible online with even the slightest of lag (FUCK YOU LAG). even ness. id use him just so i could practice his meteor smash
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Elipzo
Person with 100-250 posts
It's like pain except I LOVE it!
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Post by Elipzo on May 20, 2010 16:51:05 GMT -7
Only slow characters are good in lag.
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Post by Skarr on May 21, 2010 18:04:08 GMT -7
i like jiggly, but it's too hard to use. it's too light and floaty.. oh well. its like lucario, where he's too slow on pulling out moves. plus, im not a fan of his dair My only bood thing with jiggles is if i get someone in mid-air, they'll get tons of damage.
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Post by Skarr on May 21, 2010 18:04:54 GMT -7
i like jiggly, but it's too hard to use. it's too light and floaty.. oh well. its like lucario, where he's too slow on pulling out moves. plus, im not a fan of his dair My only bood thing with jiggles is if i get someone in mid-air, they'll get tons of damage. Damn, i shouldn't of said that. I'm going to keep this up though for those who want to know that about me.
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Elipzo
Person with 100-250 posts
It's like pain except I LOVE it!
Posts: 233
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Post by Elipzo on May 22, 2010 14:22:33 GMT -7
Its called Luigi. Luigi's N-air can Trump all of Jiggs's aerials, and its fast, AND it hits you directly upwards. Jiggs is light, so be careful while facing a Weegee.
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Post by wiidude30 on May 26, 2010 17:31:25 GMT -7
i would laugh if some1 timed luigi's kick taunt while they were on an edge. tht would in fact mean, you have been pwned.
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Post by Nate on May 26, 2010 18:36:39 GMT -7
i would laugh if some1 timed luigi's kick taunt while they were on an edge. tht would in fact mean, you have been pwned. I think it's funny how they made some of Luigi's moves look like they suck but they actually have a lot of unexpected power. For example his up-B has surprising power when you hit the sweetspot (fire jump punch) but sucks at damage/knockback otherwise, and his taunt looks like he's just being shy or whatever but it's pure pwnage out of nowhere if someone happens to be on the edge.
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Post by wiidude30 on May 27, 2010 15:45:23 GMT -7
See? Luigi can do things not even Mario can do. You gotta respect the lean mean green machine.
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Post by dethead666 on May 27, 2010 21:50:43 GMT -7
Too many technical terms from Elipso, I'm thinking me and him are two totally different brawlers and musicians, I play music and don't question the technicality of it, just like brawl. I have one thing I know I gotta do which is fucking punch and punch and punch some more until the other guy is dead.
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Post by O-X on May 28, 2010 11:06:33 GMT -7
wegee is ownage. if u kno how to use his fire jump.
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Post by wiidude30 on May 28, 2010 16:34:51 GMT -7
ive used his fire jump in mid-air once before. you have to be literally in the opponent to sweet-spot em. it's obviously easier to use it on bowser and such. kirby is just a pain to do it.
ps, its funny when kirby ducks and ganon misses his wizard's foot. heh heh...
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Post by O-X on Jun 1, 2010 9:17:33 GMT -7
ive done it multiple times. sometimes u gota be clever an trick ur opponent.
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